"If somebody bought Berkshire Hathaway in 1965 and they held it, they made a great investment - and their broker would have starved to death."

Warren E. Buffett was sitting across from me over lunch at a private club in Midtown Manhattan last week, lamenting the current state of Wall Street, which promotes a trading culture over an investing culture and offers incentives for brokers and traders to generate fees and fast profits.

"The emphasis on trading has increased. Just look at the turnover in all of the stocks," he said, adding with a smile: "Sales people have forever gotten paid by selling people something. Generally, you pay a doctor for how often he gets you to change prescriptions."

Mr. Buffett, 82, is famous for investing in companies that he sees as solid operations and essential to the economy, like railroads, utilities and financial companies, and holds his stakes for the long run. The argument that the markets are better off today because of the enormous amount of liquidity in the stock market, a function of quick flipping and electronic trading, is a fallacy, he said.

"You can't buy 10 percent of the farmland in Nebraska in three years if you set out to do it," he said. Yet, he pointed out, he was able to buy the equivalent of 10 percent of I.B.M. in six to eight months as a result of the market's liquidity. "The idea that people look at their holdings in such a way that that kind of volume exists means that to a great extent, it's a casino game," he said. Of course, unlike many investors, he plans to hold his stake in I.B.M. for years.

David Fuller's view Time and markets move on but there are usually some nuggets of wisdom in Warren Buffett's comments.